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Giant List of Locations for Traveler Achievements (The Penultimate Update as of December 5 2012) Current Count: 1439
An ongoing mystery with street location qualification has finally been solved (after 22 days since this thread first opened on 2011/11/8). A major thank you to everyone who helped report results, data, and information. The key results and findings that were previously uncertain but now confirmed are:
Places that count: Everything in Jethimadh Tower, all one-time quest locations including The Back Alley and Rooks' Woods, both old Hell One and new Hell One. Four locations from the limited time only Cosma Performance Testing.
Places that don't count: Subway Stations, Machine Rooms.
Before the release of new streets in Rasana and Aranna, there were 774 confirmed locations, which matched the maximum, non-glitched high scores leading to confirmation in exactly which streets did or didn't qualify.
Current List (as of December 5 2012)
There's also a new secret spot hidden in one of the existing secret spots. Sorry I can't say more, but I am contracually prevented from doing so. Let's just say that it's a region in which only a portion of the light source is obscured by the occluding body. Know what I mean??
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- What is "the 'Cosma' test thinger"?
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A while back, they did some performance testing. You logged into a special URL, and your glitch did a bunch of really trippy things. In the process, you visited places that are not (to date) available any other way.
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Ah! Okay. Thanks!
I wondered if that's Elka meant, I just couldn't figure out why she related them to Cosma. - @Squiggle-Squee I have no idea either why it is related to Cosma, but that's how they are called, those places... LOL "Cosma Performance Testing" as per TomC's list of location names!! XD
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Actually, they are called "Animal Farm", "Soulful", "Soulless", and "The Construct".
They are in the "Other (Unavailable)" category.
--Me, the picker of nits - Ah cool! I just went by the first post of this thread hehehe had no idea. Thanks for the info :D
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I also joined after Hell One and Rook's Wood were removed from the game and am currently at 1024. I've never been to any special 'dev-only' locations or parties.
I am almost 100% sure I saw Le Miserable labeled as Les Miserable II at one point soon after its release, which I attributed to the bug it had when they first launched it (and I had been one of the ones stuck inside before they fixed it). I checked the other day when I visited and it was back to plain old 'Le Miserable', but this might explain why SchWM, AC2000, and I all seem to have an extra location. - Ah,yes! It could be one of the reasons. One of the devs has taken a picture in what looks like a Le Miserable II
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I completed Le Miserable last game day, and in the new day credits it showed that I did Le Miserable and Le Miserable II. Le Miserable II starts as you finish the puzzle, before you go into the machine to shrink.
ETA: it's a repeatable Vendor Quest so easy to go and check. - hmm, but it appears the location remains 'Le Miserable' the whole way through. so I was probably wrong (which is occasionally known to happen).
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@Tribeca-- I thought I had an extra location, because I didn't know both sides of repeated Winter Walk counted. Now, I'm fine with 1125 (I have everything but old Hell One and Rook's Woods and I'm @ 1123).
AC2k and you have definitely gotten yourselves an extra location, but there are a lot of bugs that affect location IDs (when housing quarters came out, for instance), and only a few players keeping careful track, so it's definitely possible you've been somewhere no one else will ever get to go. :(
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+ "Soil Appreciation I" quest (location: Talking 'bout Soil Appreciation)
+ "Mental Block" quest (location: Mental Block)
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Well, I personally would VERY MUCH like to know how to trigger those two.
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E D D I E, where did the Soil Appreciation I quest come from? I assume from learning Soil Appreciation?
SchWM, the Mental Block quest was released just recently I think and should be in your quest log. I haven't done the quest yet though. -
Not in my Quest Log. I'm running around in the world trying to trigger it.
--Me - Hm maybe it's given after you complete some other quests? Not sure which ones though.
- TomC: I just learned Soil Appreciation I and got the quest. There's a special location for it (like a street, not like the locations for Light Green Thumb, etc.).
- Thanks for the info, Worlds Apart! I wonder if I would still get the quest even though I already learned Soil Appreciation I, but then unlearning the other skills are re-learning it...
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I ended up getting Mental Block (for no obvious reason, while I was AFK, so I have no idea what triggered it). Still can't get the Soil Appreciation one to trigger. I've dug a LOT of dirt piles, though.
--Me - SchWM, you have to learn Soil Appreciation I the skill to get the quest. This will be difficult for people with that already learned plus most of the skill tree :p
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TomC-- do we have confirmation that there's no other way to trigger the quest?
Never mind, Kevbob confirmed it on Live Help.
Grr. Argh.
--Me, not looking forward to losing Herbalism / Croppery -
I got into the EZ Cooking Quest to help a Newb and it did count. I rose on the Leaderboard to 12!
ETA: I do think it is unfair because not everyone can get in but I am not willing to give up my place - Lol! - are you saying there is a new location due to a quest that only pops up if i unlearn then re learn soil appreciation one? What a pain in the ass that is :(
- Misha, I don't think it's intentionally meant to be that way, just that there are now some newbie quests for new players. But we can still technically get them, just inconvenient xD
- Wait, so there is not just Soil one we have to unlearn, there's EZ Cooking too, is that it? I am uber confused right now because I haven't been reading here in a few days haha. All I got was Mental Block XD Haaaalp
- Yeah so far two known early level quests with new locations.
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I didn't learn or unlearn anything new (I have all the skills, learned SA1 ages ago, have never unlearned anything ever); those two quests just spontaneously appeared in my quest queue a few days ago. You could try making urth blocks or something, 'cause, like, soil? blocks? maybe?
*shrug*
Here's some snaps. -
Ooh, and reminiscing on the conch counts, I think. (Last stage of Esquibeth quest minus conch equals one new location?) 1128.
[Edit: Nope!] - Thanks for the snaps, E D D I E. I'm not sure how the conch counts for new location? It just goes back to the same 4 parts from before?
- Well, I'm thinking the last part, where you get the conch the first time around but not the second time, counts as two separate locations. My count went up, and that's the only explanation I can think of. Could use some confirmation though.
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Yeah, something's fishy. After the 1st hour of the Quest feat, I'd gained a location. It was NOT from Esqui (I'd redone that before), but may well be from redoing Emo Bear (I'd totally forgotten that you could reminisce Emo).
Now, I'm up to 1125, missing Old Hell One and Rook's Woods, and apparently two newbie quests, so the #'s up to 1129?
--Me - Hm. It might've been the emo bear. I reminisced that around the same time.
- Ah I have not done Esquibeth at all during the feat but did the Emo Bear for the second time (only today) and my count went up too. Looks like The Greedy Street Spirit second time is different.
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Okay, I un-learned all of my cooking skills, re-learned e-z cooking, make some stuff with the Knife and Board, and still no new cooking quest for me . . .
And anyway, wasn't there already an EZ Cooking quest (www.glitch-strategy.com/wik...) which all of us must have done way back when? Is it that there is a replacement EZ Cooking Quest, which those of us which did the original one won't have access to? -
OK, I took a snap the first time I took the The Greedy Street Spirit quest, and one reminiscing it just now.
Definitely separate locations:
www.glitch.com/locations/LN...
www.glitch.com/locations/LI...
The same method seems to confirm that the Esquibeth quest only counts once.
Mystery solved! - I got the soil appreciation one out of the blue a week or so ago, it didn't seem to be triggered by anything and I've been all learned up for a while. As I watched the traveller leaderboard it seems that people are gradually getting it on the drip feed from the way I've been creeping back down the rankings since I got it (10th to 21st so far).
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HOLY EFFING CRAP, I'M NUMBER ONE!!! (Briefly, until the bugged glitchen catch up, but I sure wasn't expecting it!)
I started at 1128
+ 28 new streets in Ormonos
+ Color Unblocking
+ The Society of Keen-Eyed Noticers
+ Pintura Prosa
+ separate locations for reminiscing Le Miserable, Walk Toward the Light, Mental Block, Radiant Glare, and Color Unblocking with the Play Cube.
Which should come to a total of 1164, but after all that, I'm just at 1162. I guess it's possible the leaderboard is just being slow or something. We'll see.
Edit: Yep, just slow. Yay! - Very cool, Eddie! Nice to see some movement at the top of the leader board, it's a long time since we've seen that.
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+ 27 in Lida
+ 20 in Jal
+ 1 in Firozi
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Thanks for the updated count, E D D I E.
The current max locations is now 1214 with the confirmation of the 3 new basic skill learning quests: A L'il Animal Kinship, Breezy, EZ Cookin', and Talking 'bout Soil Appreciation. -
So. Tom C
How do we visit those new places in the new skills quests? I see you have been to 1213, so you must have visited some of them -
I haven't gotten any of those quests yet, but they are unlocked when you learn the associated skills, such as after you finish learning EZ Cooking I, you'll get the Breezy, EZ Cookin' quest. This of course will be difficult for players who already learned tons of skills after that on the skill tree.
E D D I E above got lucky with somehow getting the Talking 'bout Soil Appreciation.without having to relearn the skill though. And Brib was summoned to EZ Cookin' via a Greeter Twig by chance. My extras came from a different version of Hell Bar and an version of a quest. -
Re: "This of course will be difficult for players who already learned tons of skills after that on the skill tree." Can anyone confirm it is possible at all, for players in that situation?
I un-learned all of my cooking skills, re-learned e-z cooking, made some stuff with the Knife and Board, and still no new cooking quest for me . . . Maybe because I had already done the old quest for EZ cooking, which didn't involve visiting anywhere, but merely cooking some stuff? - Wow Leites, thanks for trying that. I am not sure then, but it seems like that's how new players are getting that quest, right after learning EZ Cooking I. I guess your theory might be correct then. But E D D I E managed to get the Soil Appreciation quest, so not sure how it all works.
- FWIW, I relearned EZ Cooking I too but was not offered the quest.
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Tom, I was at 1201 before Reminiscing all the Quests in my Game Cube.
I am now at 1206. So it adds 5.
Since I am missing all the new locations from Newbie Quests (A L'il Animal Kinship, Breezy, EZ Cookin', and Talking 'bout Soil Appreciation = 4) --- (Oh and on that note I might add I had a long discussion with TS about that, and they'll be looking with the Techies about if "older players" should or should not get them from Unlearning Re-Learning btw) and also the 4 Performance Test Locations... Been to Rook Woods, Old Hell, Back Alley, blah blah etc., and never have been in any undisclosed places...
We can be sure! 1206 + 8 = 1214, 100% confirmed. :D - Thanks for the info, Wrong Way and elka! Very cool you asked about the newbie quests, looking forward to a decision on that.
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Me too. I'm @ 1209 missing old Hell One and Rook's Woods, and unlearning skills like crazy...
--Me - @SchWM if I were you, I wouldn't Unlearn because TS did tell me it was not their intention of offering those Quests to older players. But, that they were unaware that people started Unlearning for that purpose... after that I never got an answer and lots of people here in this thread confirmed that it does not work at the present time.
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Eh. Need to unlearn some stuff anyway. Hopefully, it'll help. If not, I'll be a little lighter in the head.
--Me